Who HASNT seen the film -The Obama Deception yet?

[KIRBY]

The thing is, the subject may have merit. But then you have to take into account Alex Jones with his ridiculous voice, as if he were some sort of South Park parody. Then factor in his lurching from one outrageous point to the other, and you'll struggle to find many who take them seriously. The way it's presented really doesn't help its cause, and I'm not talking in terms of sheer money.

[Le_Coop]

KIRBY Wrote:The thing is, the subject may have merit. But then you have to take into account Alex Jones with his ridiculous voice, as if he were some sort of South Park parody. Then factor in his lurching from one outrageous point to the other, and you'll struggle to find many who take them seriously. The way it's presented really doesn't help its cause, and I'm not talking in terms of sheer money.

In brief, you wont watch it because of his voice....how does a person actually lurch from one point to another. Of course its outrageous. Pretty dull otherwise. The truth is hard to swallow. Takes a lot of lube



Richmanu, my post is huge and i have million askimet issues to resolve before i can post

[RichardEStuart]

Le_Coop Wrote:Richmanu, my post is huge and i have million askimet issues to resolve before i can post

or you could email it to me. askimet is balls

[beariksson]

I haven't seen it.

[pisces]

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"Theres a surprise, opinions from people who havnt seen it. Its people who make their mind up about something before they watch it that will never find the truth until its too late to make sensible choices to change their path... sounds like you know all about it, well done. Youve clearly done your own research and not followed the opinion of the well informed majority."
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i'm talking about the trailer, that's all. it's strange that you seem to be so...angry at a total stranger on a message board for expressing his opinion. it does nothing to make that stranger want to listen to what you have to say which is a bit daft because i've got plenty of time for this sort of movie. (shrugs).

how bizzare.

[andy8271]

the whole thing is really bizzare and could be argued about forever until theres some hard evidence. think im going to go back to watching people fall up escalators on you tube. atleast theres cctv proof of that!

[KIRBY]

Le Coop Wrote:n brief, you wont watch it because of his voice....how does a person actually lurch from one point to another. Of course its outrageous. Pretty dull otherwise. The truth is hard to swallow. Takes a lot of lube

come again? I watched it. I can see why people would find it ridiculous. Do you think Alex Jones's ridiculously deep, gravelly voice and emphasis on every other word does him any favours? And he lurches because nothing is properly developped. The first 5 minutes smacks of 'lets see how much shock value I can cram into this baby'. You seem to be unhealthily obsessive over these things. There's a new conspiracy around every corner.

Le Coop Wrote:Of course its outrageous. Pretty dull otherwise.

but it's the facts and cause that matter eh.

[Le_Coop]

pisces Im far from angry, you attacked something with your opinion, I defend it with mine. Im way beyond the shouting and screaming at people to take notice. Im happy that people have vastly varied opinions, its just the ones that are formed not from doing their own research that I may put some effort into criticizing.

As for focussing on and attacking again the messenger Alex Jones, well thats just the cheapest easiest way of doing it. I dont argue that he isnt an easy target. Its always always the same. Out of the majorly important points of the film, people decide to attack the personalities in the film. Forget the solid facts, attack the weaknesses

KIRBY, as above. The facts are outrageous.

[Le_Coop]

Richmanu Wrote:I liked Adam Curtis' The Trap, the power of nightmares and the centuary of self . Do you got any more recommendations Coop? I think ive pretty watched every "conspiracy" film going, be it more down to earth econical injustices, or quasi religious fanatacism, freemasonary to david icke's lizard people. (which is a special kind of crackers)

Power of Nightmares was awesome, I heard they had to cut stuff out of that which was too risque for TV too, not sure if thats true. 'Taking Liberties' is a good watch for another more maintream production that has been on terresstrial TV. For anyone that hasnt seen it its basically a ten year history of Labours erosion of liberties, freedom of speech, ban on torture etc, list goes on.


I find the more spiritual stuff more rewarding these days but its all linked. True origins of humanity, 4 forces of nature, ancient codes/monuments and in front by a mile, sacred geometry.

Sacred Geometry /maths/numerology /dimensional science stuff. This all plays a massive part of Freemason teaching and so its obvious why secret societies are important to look into when you get deep into it.

so i think most people with patience (and time) would find these rewarding:-

(Everyone mentioned can be google video searched and their films found on torrents)

Starting with Sacred Geometry

Google vid search results (http://video.google.ca/videosearch?q=sac...b=0&aq=f#)

Intro to Sacred Geometry (

I try to avoid youtube as much as possible as the gems are often hard to find amongst the saturation of everything but this is a nice little 10min vid.

Sacred Geometry 101
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=CGim...iew=videos
See 101A, 101B, 101C, 101D, 101E (10min each max)
User CGImaging is Charles Gilchrist, mandala artist from the intro vid. Nice stuff

Going a bit deeper
Sacred Geometry - Drunvalo Melchizedek

http://www.drunvalo.net/bio.html
Sacred Geometry May 2003 conference pt1 - http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-...d+geometry
Part 2 - http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=3...S6Bw&hl=en

and further again
Michael Tsarion

(http://www.michaeltsarion.com/)
Google vid results (http://video.google.ca/videosearch?q=sac...ion&emb=0)
2012 - The Future of Mankind (http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-...l+tsarion)
Teasers for Architects of Control - http://www.architectsofcontrol.com/teaser/1/index.html
http://www.architectsofcontrol.com/tease...index.html

Nassim Haramein, top guy.

Theres around 8-12 hours or more of Nassim Haramein vids online at google(self taught scientist / physics etc) . (his site The Resonance Project - http://theresonanceproject.org/)

Part 1 - 4 hours - http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=6...m+haramein (Its actually fun)
If you are not yet familiar with Nassim Haramein's exciting work, prepare yourself for an exhilarating odyssey into hyperspace and beyond. Haramein, who has spent his lifetime researching fields of physics from quantum theory to relativistic equations and cosmology, will lead you along a fascinating discussion geared to a layman's understanding of the fundamental nature of the universe and creation that includes black holes, gravitational forces, dimensions, and the very structure of space itself - all of which are integral parts of his now-complete Unified Field Theory
Part 2 - 4.3hours - http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-...m+haramein


torrent = http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/69450...ab=summary

Jordan Maxwells 40 year research is handy, fascinating read. Much of which is displayed at his site
http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/


The lizard/reptilian/dragon/draconis stuff has always been fascinating. My mother has always been a hardcore documentary watcher and i picked up on all the egyptian stuff she used to watch when I was younger and the use of snake/reptile symbolism has often played large parts in ancient civilisations. I guess it comes down to whether you believe we are alone or not. If you dont then anything is possible. That leads me on to the Disclosure Project. Many are saying Obama is the disclosure president (because of certain staff he has appointed and their relation to disclosure groups/projects......and more truths will be let out.

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-...re+project
On Wednesday, May 9th 2001, over twenty military, intelligence, government, corporate and scientific witnesses came forward at the National Press Club in Washington, DC to establish the reality of UFOs or extraterrestrial vehicles, extraterrestrial life forms, and resulting advanced energy and propulsion technologies. The weight of this first-hand testimony, along with supporting government documentation and other evidence, will establish without any doubt the reality of these phenomena, according to Dr. Steven M. Greer.
Im currently watching Crop Circles - Quest For Truth. Some of the amazing mathematic specifics of the geometry are too exact and perfect to be made in a matter of hours by drunk farmers. Anyway its a subject which still has been deliberately ridiculed and its very easy to spot legitime ones from fakes simply by the bent nodes which simply cannot be done by us. Every year the circles become more advanced. I cant wait to see what appears this season.

Torrent - http://isohunt.com/download/16227234/cro...th.torrent



At the end of the day it all comes down to Love, which is the answer, ask Erol.

[bellyscratch]

Le_Coop Wrote:Love you too

To me, to close a door to an educational documentary is refusing to take on board something which has the ability to teach you something and provide knowledge about something you oppose. Every statement is backed up by facts in this film, even if the odd aggressive statement by Alex Jones comes across as over the top. Its like people who never listen to Jones calling him a fear monger and CIA agent. Ridiculous

But why would I want to take notice of someone who is overtly anti-communist/socialist when im basically a Marxist?

[Le_Coop]

bellyscratch Wrote:

Le_Coop Wrote:Love you too

To me, to close a door to an educational documentary is refusing to take on board something which has the ability to teach you something and provide knowledge about something you oppose. Every statement is backed up by facts in this film, even if the odd aggressive statement by Alex Jones comes across as over the top. Its like people who never listen to Jones calling him a fear monger and CIA agent. Ridiculous

But why would I want to take notice of someone who is overtly anti-communist/socialist when im basically a Marxist?

I disagree with his negativity towards communists/socialists but i understood why he is that way when the same families of bankers funded both movements all those years ago.

Ill watch anything that puts facts together well, even if I dislike the producer

[RichardEStuart]

Le_Coop Wrote:I find the more spiritual stuff more rewarding these days but its all linked. True origins of humanity, 4 forces of nature, ancient codes/monuments and in front by a mile, sacred geometry.


At the end of the day it all comes down to Love, which is the answer, ask Erol.

Cheers Coop, Ive already hit upon some of this stuff already, I've been trying to get my head around Fibonacci numbers which are found everywhere in nature as well as in the Pyramids, and you can make music using them. Also I watched about 4 hours of David Sereda going off at a tangent with some of his quantum theories. His galaxy clock theory was interesting.

Something else I found peculiar was amongst John Anthony Wests 'Mysteries of Egypt' in the very last series (8) he brought in a guy to explain what he found with the Dogon tribe in west africa, aside from the Sirius B star chart mystery they posses, he kinda showed how they have a embedded into their religion the very foundations of quantum physics at a much higher level then we know now!

[TempestDisco]

lols conspiracies

give me a life of mindless substance abuse and frolicking than actually caring about stuff anyday ;)

[Le_Coop]

Yeah I love that stuff

You seen all the Project Camelot vids? Id love to think Dan Burisch is totally for real.

My ma is off to Egypt this year. Im hoping to go at some point during some worldwide ancient site trip with the Andes too.

But yeah things are moving fast science wise its great. Spin, vibration, +/-,


Im a believer that time is speeding up towards the end of our current cycle, however long that may be....2160 small, 26000 large

[1989]

Le_Coop Wrote:http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=7...+deception



edit, thankfully so far nobody has said this is all wrong and that Obama will be great and is our savior

When I saw this coming out how did I know you'd post something about it Coop haha. I'm going to watch it tomorrow is it any good?

[Le_Coop]

1989 Wrote:

Le_Coop Wrote:http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=7...+deception



edit, thankfully so far nobody has said this is all wrong and that Obama will be great and is our savior

When I saw this coming out how did I know you'd post something about it Coop haha. I'm going to watch it tomorrow is it any good?

First hour is tough, second is more my cup of tea

[RichardEStuart]

Le_Coop Wrote:Yeah I love that stuff

You seen all the Project Camelot vids? Id love to think Dan Burisch is totally for real.

My ma is off to Egypt this year. Im hoping to go at some point during some worldwide ancient site trip with the Andes too.

But yeah things are moving fast science wise its great. Spin, vibration, +/-,
http://ufonasa.terra-ent.com/images/galaxy-clock.jpg

Im a believer that time is speeding up towards the end of our current cycle, however long that may be....2160 small, 26000 large

Yeah thats the galaxy clock theory. not seen th eproject Camelot stuff, will give that some veiwing though. cheers

[Le_Coop]

My friend Mark Cocking is invaluable when it comes to numbers and geometry. Also an electronic music producer too who has been researching deep for years since the seventies. Any questions about fibonacci and phi and music and he'll know the answer. But yeah there are so many resources online now that discuss this

http://www.ne-music.co.uk/artistspotlight.php

Edit - I forgot this great Tsarion page = http://www.taroscopes.com/miscellanous-p...apons.html

[wankydave]

le_coop do you sleep in your attic wearing a tin foil hat to stop the government reading your thoughts?

[Le_Coop]

wankydave Wrote:le_coop do you sleep in your attic wearing a tin foil hat to stop the government reading your thoughts?

I have nothing to hide......knock yourself out and read away

...unlike pussy anarchists who go rioting with scarves over their faces.

Our army is primarily paper based......need another clue?

[Monsk]

theholyromanempire Wrote:Americas really got some trust issues, looks like a good watch though.

You could make a squirrel look evil with that music in the intro.

Squirrels are evil, they eat my strawberries

[RichardEStuart]

perineal gland



edit: I have no idea why I mentioned this? i probably had something in mind (excuse the pun!)

[d rexx]

I think the movie could have used a lot more hard facts instead of opinions. Regardless of what the truth is, that "film" was the worst piece of shit documentary I've ever seen. And no, not just because it's "hard to swallow" or whatever, I already knew money runs the governments of the world, the federal reserve was bad, income taxes are illegal, etc.

It seems like the main guy doesn't want people to know his message. You don't get people to listen to you by being an ass yelling at cars, interviewing krs-one and a minor member of public enemy (who are both extremely irrelevant) and talking in a ridiculous voice. You make a professional product, maybe write an intellectual scholar-level book with extensive sources, and you tour with said book. I'm still in college and I know this guy is doing it all wrong.

After a brief wikipedia search, looks like this Jones fella never graduated college. I bet he wouldn't be yelling at cars had he. He kind of reminds me of the Rush Limbaugh of conspiracy theorists.

[RichardEStuart]

d rexx Wrote:After a brief wikipedia search, looks like this Jones fella never graduated college. I bet he wouldn't be yelling at cars had he.

so you have to have a degree to become a political activist?

[bellyscratch]

Naomi Klein dropped out of uni too and she's one of the most respected contemporary political activists/journalists/authors around at the moment....