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Le_Coop · 2009-03-20, 01:11:01

Robototron Wrote:That was my point. I think you're a nut.

Thanks.

And what brought you to that conclusion?

Robototron · 2009-03-20, 02:52:16

Le_Coop Wrote:
Robototron Wrote:That was my point. I think you're a nut.
Thanks.

And what brought you to that conclusion?

Hey, I'm just being honest. I really do think all these conspiracy videos and articles you're always linking to are absolutely insane, and honestly I think I've disagreed with just about everything you've ever posted that wasn't music-related.

You can probably just ignore my opinion altogether, though, as I don't think Obama is part of some hidden agenda, just your average politician, and tend to value academia and university education over "self-taught" scientists and other so-called experts.

AlexTheKid · 2009-03-20, 03:33:45

The Revoloution will not be televised!

Watch that!!

good show!!!!

Le_Coop · 2009-03-20, 12:34:18

Robototron Wrote:
Le_Coop Wrote:
Robototron Wrote:That was my point. I think you're a nut.
Thanks.

And what brought you to that conclusion?
Hey, I'm just being honest. I really do think all these conspiracy videos and articles you're always linking to are absolutely insane, and honestly I think I've disagreed with just about everything you've ever posted that wasn't music-related.

You can probably just ignore my opinion altogether, though, as I don't think Obama is part of some hidden agenda, just your average politician, and tend to value academia and university education over "self-taught" scientists and other so-called experts.

Thats good. I just wanted to judge your level of unknowing (in my opinion) and if this was a result of your own research, your closed/open mindedness or just following so called schooled and educated experts.

There are some seriously crazy folk who run around shouting and screaming about the same stuff I talk about and link to and many have been deliberately ridiculed to create a public opinion.

The common agreement that well over 90 percent of all knowledge hidden from us is stored in the Vatican Library should start alarm bells.

And if only 5 percent of all whistleblowers from ex military, ex nasa, high level science and more etc, are speaking the truth, then everything ive discussed and linked to here pales in comparison.

But then I suppose your believe your country is still the leader of the free world spreading democracy where possible

Robototron · 2009-03-20, 17:34:38

Le_Coop Wrote:But then I suppose your believe your country is still the leader of the free world spreading democracy where possible

:rolleyes:

oppee · 2009-03-20, 18:14:47

How come the Vatican Library has all the answers?? i watched that vid about aliens and one of the the attorneys i think, requested documents and was denied

Le_Coop · 2009-03-20, 20:36:05

Robototron Wrote:
Le_Coop Wrote:But then I suppose your believe your country is still the leader of the free world spreading democracy where possible
:rolleyes:

Vietnam, Korea, Afganistan, Iraq. Those are just the obvious EPIC FAILS.

Robototron · 2009-03-21, 04:34:15

Le_Coop Wrote:
Robototron Wrote:
Le_Coop Wrote:But then I suppose your believe your country is still the leader of the free world spreading democracy where possible
:rolleyes:
Vietnam, Korea, Afganistan, Iraq. Those are just the obvious EPIC FAILS.

Uh, no shit? Make your point?

I mean, do you honestly believe that someone can't be critical of their government (and politics in general) without resorting to the ridiculous assertions that are made in many of the videos linked to in this thread, or are you just trying to be annoying?

Le_Coop · 2009-03-21, 04:49:09

Robototron Wrote:
Le_Coop Wrote:
Robototron Wrote::rolleyes:
Vietnam, Korea, Afganistan, Iraq. Those are just the obvious EPIC FAILS.
Uh, no shit? Make your point?

I mean, do you honestly believe that someone can't be critical of their government (and politics in general) without resorting to the ridiculous assertions that are made in many of the videos linked to in this thread, or are you just trying to be annoying?

I read this twice, and im shit faced....

....and i still dont really know what the question is.....

okay okay I see it. I believe that many people can be critical of their government without resorting to posting alternative videos. However most feel they are too insignificant, or are too preoccupied with their own small lives to affect the bigger picture.

The point of this thread was mainly to display the obvious facts that have been completely fogotte by the gernal public....because of the media, not their fault.

Throughout Obamas campaign we have had change rhetoric(spell?) and many many folk have seen him as thr new jesus christ, the savior of our times.

RIGHTLY SO because of his words during campaign. He even had me wondering at one point...'wow, could this really be another JFK situation where the hidden hand have somehow messed up and placed in power a man who will stand up for the people, who will speak out against dark hidden societies like JFK did'

- listen to it all

But no, within days of Inauguration it became clear who his daddys are. Which is sad, very sad indeed.

And this is why i posted this thread. Not to be annoying, not to force my alternative opinios on others, but to simply show that Obama is very very differrnt to thr Obama which the majority believe him to be. You may know this yourself....but many many dont...and now...they may do.

Le_Coop · 2009-03-22, 19:06:47

Talk by Naomi Wolf - The End of America - October 2007, Kane Hall on the University of Washington campus.

Talk by Naomi Wolf author of "The End of America: Letter of Warning To A Young Patriot"

The End of America Movie http://endofamericamovie.com/

d rexx · 2009-03-23, 06:35:16

Le_Coop Wrote:

Talk by Naomi Wolf - The End of America - October 2007, Kane Hall on the University of Washington campus.

Talk by Naomi Wolf author of "The End of America: Letter of Warning To A Young Patriot"

The End of America Movie http://endofamericamovie.com/

This is 100% how it's done. Exactly what I was talking about before. This is from a book tour much like the concept you ridiculed before.

d rexx · 2009-03-23, 06:37:22

Le_Coop Wrote:writing books and touring with them.....touring...what the fuck

...right here

Le_Coop · 2009-03-23, 12:50:12

Alex Jones, Naomi Wolf. Who is the more well known. Who has now created a documentary acheiving millions of views ? Who has 'woken up' more people. For fucks sake its obvious. You dont have to align yourself fully with every single Jones viewpoint but he set people off with their own research like no other

I was not ridiculing the promotional concepts of people like Naomi and other well know leftie writers. I did warn you in the exact same post that i was drunk. "touring with them....touring..what the fuck" was a spill from my brain as I tried to picture Alex Jones sitting nice in front of an intellectual crowd at a university in the northern parts of the US. He is the catalyst, a trigger, a loud, in your face wake up call. Naomi is genuinly scared of what she does. She ran away from the US for years after 9/11 when this started heating up. And yes, I love her.

I still havnt come close to your "regardless of what the facts are" quote but please carry on

lovefrombelow · 2009-03-23, 21:06:24

AlexTheKid Wrote:The Revoloution will not be televised!

fuck that, just a bunch of left wing propaganda bullshit paid by our government to make them look like angels and saviours.

Le_Coop · 2009-03-23, 21:26:37

lovefrombelow Wrote:
AlexTheKid Wrote:The Revoloution will not be televised!
fuck that, just a bunch of left wing propaganda bullshit paid by our government to make them look like angels and saviours.

Sad to say theres a good chance youre right as much as I really liked the film. As much as the film was good and showed the CIA/US involvement/support for the coup and how the controlled media skewed the facts about civilians with guns, its hard to believe Chavez isnt in the pockets of the globalist elite.

So what do the general public think? It was looking really good at one point in the past. Youve gradually got more left wing goverments coming into power over there too. What do you think about that?

lovefrombelow · 2009-03-23, 22:04:12

i think we deserve all this leftish goverments we have over here, after years and years of abuse by the so called 'democratic' ones, people got sick and they went with the first 'new and fresh' face they saw, but i think that this cheap 'socialism' that Chavez tries to engage in our country and south america (becoming what he hates 'an imperialist', just like Castro tried to expand his communist agenda all over the place), its not the answer to our people needs, but they are usually blinded with his charisma and reactionary politics to make his followers make calm.

(writing this was hard, my english is not that good :( )

Le_Coop · 2009-03-23, 23:34:12

English seems fine to me, better than many Englanders :). Even if you make errors im sure we'll still know what you are saying.

Surely what he is doing is better than the previous government?

Privatisation has done us badly here in my view. Especially in terms of transport. We could do with a Chavez :)

So what do you think they are doing wrong? Are the people not just getting paranoid about communism due to regular anti-Chavez propaganda?

The documentary was filmed by Irish film makers too so its hard to say it was strictly left wing propaganda...obviously you can never rule out being paid for the film to look a certain way but it seemed pretty honest to me

bellyscratch · 2009-04-02, 22:41:01

hobocop · 2009-04-04, 12:24:02

reason why the internet is great - digital music, films, forums to discuss the above.

reason why the internet is not great - films like this get made, and stupid people around the world make me watch them.