The North West 10 - Todays terror raids and MET chief bungled dosier..

[Le_Coop]

Im posting this to see what people with different views to mine say about it.

We have been cooking Pakistan nicely, over last few years and now our drones are there killing Pakistanis in their own country inside alleged terror camps.

Whenever I hear about terrorists and Pakistan in this country I take note.

You may not have seen the news yet but



Assistant Commissioner Bob Quick arrived at number 10 and the media photographed a terror dosier and kept quiet throughout today.

Anti terror squads had to go for it now incase any of the pics leaked to the guys in question, hence the raids a few hours ago.

We have on many occasions been told of terror arrests but we are rarely told that almost all of them are released without charge.

If I was to take a guess, I think they are mostly students who are anti-war, mostly if not all of them originating in Pakistan through family. Possibly a mix of home grown and foreign birth and most will be released without charge within a matter of days.

[oid]

the government need something to shift the focus away from the tomlinsoncase, this is a classic example.

timely terror raid when government approval drops

[oid]

guardian 2007: 1,166 anti-terror arrests net 40 convictions since 2001

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/mar/05....terrorism

more than half of those were released without charge

[Le_Coop]

oid Wrote:the government need something to shift the focus away from the tomlinsoncase, this is a classic example.

timely terror raid when government approval drops

You said it this time not me :D

[Le_Coop]

Surprise surprise al-Qaeda is discussed. What a joke.

So theres 12 of them and only one or two are born here. And yes its Pakistan as expected.

I dont like to be this suspicious and Id rather hope that our guys actually stopped a real threat, but the timing is superb and the daytime raids are sure to create massive public interest. I just cant believe Bob Quick would be part of it. Where he goes in his next job id be curious.

I saw an interview today with an Asian guy who said they took his mate away but he is now released. Still no news of any releases?!

Id love this photographed document to be leaked

[FUDGE]

It's mental, a few of my friends were inside the ljmu library where they got one guy, I only live down the street from there too it's where I study, EEry!

[Le_Coop]

Eurgh Gordon Brown talking "acting preemptively" and discussing links with Pakistani terrorists and err....Pakistani terrorists. This is bad

[Le_Coop]

Boom. The landlord of some of the guys arrested said the cops didnt want to take his CCTV as evidence (of his internet cafe below the residents accomodation)

Well done.

[bellyscratch]

On a slightly related note...

[Le_Coop]

Ha yeah so true. Hence why the need to for public opinion to be anti-Pakistani as we are definately ramping it up there.

Its looks to me like MI5 have the police on a wild goose chase. Ill be more than pleased if proved wrong in 30 days time when these folks are formally charged though

[Le_Coop]

This news is now quite hard to find.

No updates for well over a week, no mentions in news at all.

Im still placing my bets for NO EVIDENCE and NO CONVINCTIONS

If im right, it should be create a lot of questions, but it will no doubt hide under the mat apart from alternative media online

Last night I couldnt find any news later than April 10th. they will no doubt start releasing some of them, hopefully well before the 28 days of unlawful incarcerarion are up

[Le_Coop]

Bingo, spoke too soon

Its a good read

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr...s-arrested

HOHOHOHOHOHO

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8011341.stm

I love it when a plan comes to together.

Deported for a crime they were never charged for. Deported due to embarassment. The risk to national security is that they are so angry they decide to learn how to make bombs. Its okay, their lives are ruined and will sent back to Pakistan where theyll probably get a bus to the nearest border traning camp. This shit fucking totally cracks me up.

[SomethingMoreGlorious]

Excuse my shocking ignorance but were 2 of the 10 dragged out of Liverpool John Moore's University?

Anyway, my cousin was in the library and two Asian students were dragged out and she was interviewed for local news and she said "They aren't on my course, i'm not even sure what subject they do do".

She said "do do" on local news.

Obviously this is all small potatoes compared to those guys being wrongfully arrested but what's the world coming to?

[theholyromanempire]

bellyscratch Wrote:On a slightly related note...

http://inrepair.files.wordpress.com/2008...-funny.gif

ahht thats my favorite ever.

my opinion isnt the most intelligent and/or respected but the way i see it

if they get one terrorist (that could potentially destroy thousands of lives) out of a group of 50 innocent people, then so be it.

I mean if they get a tip off and think "ahhh its probably just another student lameo" and he/she goes on to do something terrorist like, then they get fried by the public for not doing there job.

or is the point that there searching anyone that looks abit 'muslimy' ?

e

[Le_Coop]

theholyromanempire Wrote:

bellyscratch Wrote:On a slightly related note...

http://inrepair.files.wordpress.com/2008...-funny.gif

ahht thats my favorite ever.

my opinion isnt the most intelligent and/or respected but the way i see it

if they get one terrorist (that could potentially destroy thousands of lives) out of a group of 50 innocent people, then so be it.

I mean if they get a tip off and think "ahhh its probably just another student lameo" and he/she goes on to do something terrorist like, then they get fried by the public for not doing there job.

or is the point that there searching anyone that looks abit 'muslimy' ?

e

I have absolutely no idea whether your whole post is one big fishing hook or that you actually honestly believe what you just said.

Okay lets pretend this really is your view. "If they get" one terrorist. Do you mean if they arrest someone and successfully convict someone of say...for example planning and creating a bomb with intent to kill, or say just having a chat about the possibilities of blowing up Old Trafford? There are hundreds of 'terrorist crimes' from the simple recon to the full blown caught in the act strapped with bombs or in fact catching someone after theyve killed.

So what youre saying is, youd be happy if we arrested 50 Pakistani students on legitimate visas with the possibility of holding them up to 28 days (they wanted 42 but failed) if we manage to get lucky and "get one"

Your last line is clearly just you being deliberately stupid

[jamdoughnut]

SomethingMoreGlorious Wrote:Excuse my shocking ignorance but were 2 of the 10 dragged out of Liverpool John Moore's University?

Anyway, my cousin was in the library and two Asian students were dragged out and she was interviewed for local news and she said "They aren't on my course, i'm not even sure what subject they do do".

She said "do do" on local news.

Obviously this is all small potatoes compared to those guys being wrongfully arrested but what's the world coming to?

lol

[theholyromanempire]

Le_Coop Wrote:

theholyromanempire Wrote:

bellyscratch Wrote:On a slightly related note...

http://inrepair.files.wordpress.com/2008...-funny.gif

ahht thats my favorite ever.

my opinion isnt the most intelligent and/or respected but the way i see it

if they get one terrorist (that could potentially destroy thousands of lives) out of a group of 50 innocent people, then so be it.

I mean if they get a tip off and think "ahhh its probably just another student lameo" and he/she goes on to do something terrorist like, then they get fried by the public for not doing there job.

or is the point that there searching anyone that looks abit 'muslimy' ?

e

I have absolutely no idea whether your whole post is one big fishing hook or that you actually honestly believe what you just said.

Okay lets pretend this really is your view. "If they get" one terrorist. Do you mean if they arrest someone and successfully convict someone of say...for example planning and creating a bomb with intent to kill, or say just having a chat about the possibilities of blowing up Old Trafford? There are hundreds of 'terrorist crimes' from the simple recon to the full blown caught in the act strapped with bombs or in fact catching someone after theyve killed.

So what youre saying is, youd be happy if we arrested 50 Pakistani students on legitimate visas with the possibility of holding them up to 28 days (they wanted 42 but failed) if we manage to get lucky and "get one"

Your last line is clearly just you being deliberately stupid

nei, well im not singling out pakistanis firstly, but didnt the guys who were responsible for 7/7 have visas? or citizenships?(im not sure)
surely saving thousands of lives is more important that looking a twat in your eyes.
im saying if they clearly have reason to believe that the person might actually do something, or there connected to it then they should at least be questioned right.


yeah im glad you picked that up.

[Le_Coop]

Official story of 7/7 has more nonsense than 9/11

OK my opinion. What you fail to understand, which is not your fault, is that these raids should never ever take place unless an attack was imminent, and/or clear evidence has been indentified that would mean they have a case. The aim is always to go higher up the chain. Where is the money coming from? Who is supplying the bombs? Do they have bomb making skills? Buying bomb making material...etc

Not one single shread of evidence was found that was powerful enough for even the most minor conviction. Are you getting it yet?

And no....the alleged 7/7 bombers were British...thats right BRITISH.

Where are all of these thousands of lives being saved? Show me

in fact, show me any footage that shows CCTV video of any of the 7/7 story.


Yes I agree people should be picked up and questioned. This wasnt simply a knock on the door and down to the cop shop, which happens hundreds of times a week. The fucking one eyed Scottish fool Gordon Brown even went on TV to stress how major this terror attack was....eurgh im gonna be sick. Its ok though, the public love that Kool Aid.

[theholyromanempire]

So no evidence of these lads having terrorist connections has been made available or there's none whatsoever?

if they actually stop an attack they are going to be fucking chuffed about it so im sure you won't have to go far to see.

I know my veiw of "catch one" seems like a incredibly ignorant and media fulled opinion, I'll run that risk, but I guess im just hopeful that they can actually do there job when it matters instead of condemning them everytime fuck ups happen.

I'll agree about gordon brown though ;)

[bleep_bleep]

people arrested imprisoned without charge for a month - then released with their lives destroyed ( who wants to have anything to do with some one whos got the 'terrorist' label)
When the history books are written this shall surely be a very dark chapter.

The pakistani community within the UK is this country's greatest assest if it truly wants to defeat the threat of terrorism, but instead its is isolating it.

[Le_Coop]

Some may say thats the purpose. More division tactics. "Dont look at us, look at them, your neighbours"

At the higher levels they are scum, pig masonic scum